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		<title>By: @TwocentsCanada</title>
		<link>http://www.dancingdogblog.com/2010/01/pet-food-industry-vets-undue-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-9582</link>
		<dc:creator>@TwocentsCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone concerned about animal welfare should understand that diet and TYPE of diet is actually an important issue when you consider that popular cat foods are likely responsible for the majority of the cases of feline cystitis. It&#8217;s well documented that litter box issues are one of the leading reasons cat owners relinquish their animals.  Those owners who don&#8217;t understand the problem may also punish, abuse, euthanize or abandon their cats.  Kibble diets contribute to other painful urinary conditions, including sudden urinary blockages that can result in an agonizing death (- a major reason cats should not be left alone for more than 14 hours).  Treatment is expensive. Dr. Pierson, Dr. Debra Zoran, Dr. Jean Hofve (LittleBigCat.com), and Organizations like Feline Outrech.org &amp; the Feline Nutrition Education Society would like veterinarians, cat owners/caregivers and animal advocates to understand the issues because many feline problems are easier and cheaper to prevent than to cure.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone concerned about animal welfare should understand that diet and TYPE of diet is actually an important issue when you consider that popular cat foods are likely responsible for the majority of the cases of feline cystitis. It&rsquo;s well documented that litter box issues are one of the leading reasons cat owners relinquish their animals.  Those owners who don&rsquo;t understand the problem may also punish, abuse, euthanize or abandon their cats.  Kibble diets contribute to other painful urinary conditions, including sudden urinary blockages that can result in an agonizing death (- a major reason cats should not be left alone for more than 14 hours).  Treatment is expensive. Dr. Pierson, Dr. Debra Zoran, Dr. Jean Hofve (LittleBigCat.com), and Organizations like Feline Outrech.org &amp; the Feline Nutrition Education Society would like veterinarians, cat owners/caregivers and animal advocates to understand the issues because many feline problems are easier and cheaper to prevent than to cure.</p>
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		<title>By: @TwocentsCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>@TwocentsCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa Pierson, DVM is a gutsy vet who has been writing about this for a few years on her site, Catinfo.org.  Some of her information applies to all pet food.  She agrees that vets receive very little training about nutrition and most information they do have is provided by pet food manufacturers.  The analogy is that it would be like your doctor recommending and selling you McFood.  It has really opened my eyes to the link between pet health and diet.  I have no doubt it has helped countless owners improve their pets&#8217; health.  A search show links to her site appearing on many veterinarian&#8217;s own websites.  She reiterates everything you&#039;re said - and more.     
 
Dr. Pierson also talks about the risk to human health that dry pet foods pose. It&#8217;s not something kids should be playing with!  Most pet owners probably aren&#8217;t aware that kibble and pet treats should be handled with the same care we normally take with raw meat.  I found safe handling instructions for pet food on at least one US government site.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa Pierson, DVM is a gutsy vet who has been writing about this for a few years on her site, Catinfo.org.  Some of her information applies to all pet food.  She agrees that vets receive very little training about nutrition and most information they do have is provided by pet food manufacturers.  The analogy is that it would be like your doctor recommending and selling you McFood.  It has really opened my eyes to the link between pet health and diet.  I have no doubt it has helped countless owners improve their pets&rsquo; health.  A search show links to her site appearing on many veterinarian&rsquo;s own websites.  She reiterates everything you&#39;re said &#8211; and more.     </p>
<p>Dr. Pierson also talks about the risk to human health that dry pet foods pose. It&rsquo;s not something kids should be playing with!  Most pet owners probably aren&rsquo;t aware that kibble and pet treats should be handled with the same care we normally take with raw meat.  I found safe handling instructions for pet food on at least one US government site.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryHaight</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryHaight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Dr. Finch, and welcome. I&#039;m glad the article had you double-checking your tribe&#039;s (doesn&#039;t 8 pets merit a special name?) food ingredients. What I&#039;m getting from your comment is that veterinarians have considerable influence on food companies inasmuch as vet nutritionists are the folks who put together the formulas for the corporation? If I&#039;m on the right track, then where is the point at which the BHA/BHT and ethoxyquin continues to be approved for use by vet nutritionists? It&#039;s my understanding that vets have been suggesting a second reduction in the amount of ethoxyquin used, but this has not yet become accepted practice by pet food companies. 

There are points of argument in every body of knowledge, and I remember how many scientists happily backed the tobacco industry claims much to the ire of their otherwise employed colleagues, but if this is the case in the veterinary field as many may suspect, why do we not hear more arguments from vets against the use of these chemicals? Wouldn&#039;t your group be in the best postiion to change this, or is the concern too diffuse to bring pressure to bear on industry? Or have many in the industry said &quot;thanks, we&#039;ll take it under advisement&quot; and left it at that?  Are there any white papers that of come out on this issue? I agree we need to thank those who do a good job with our furry families food, and I think most of us vote with our dollars on this.
  

  
Thank you for providing some insight here, Dr. Finch, and I hope you&#039;ll come back again.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Dr. Finch, and welcome. I&#039;m glad the article had you double-checking your tribe&#039;s (doesn&#039;t 8 pets merit a special name?) food ingredients. What I&#039;m getting from your comment is that veterinarians have considerable influence on food companies inasmuch as vet nutritionists are the folks who put together the formulas for the corporation? If I&#039;m on the right track, then where is the point at which the BHA/BHT and ethoxyquin continues to be approved for use by vet nutritionists? It&#039;s my understanding that vets have been suggesting a second reduction in the amount of ethoxyquin used, but this has not yet become accepted practice by pet food companies. </p>
<p>There are points of argument in every body of knowledge, and I remember how many scientists happily backed the tobacco industry claims much to the ire of their otherwise employed colleagues, but if this is the case in the veterinary field as many may suspect, why do we not hear more arguments from vets against the use of these chemicals? Wouldn&#039;t your group be in the best postiion to change this, or is the concern too diffuse to bring pressure to bear on industry? Or have many in the industry said &quot;thanks, we&#039;ll take it under advisement&quot; and left it at that?  Are there any white papers that of come out on this issue? I agree we need to thank those who do a good job with our furry families food, and I think most of us vote with our dollars on this.</p>
<p>Thank you for providing some insight here, Dr. Finch, and I hope you&#039;ll come back again.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Finch, DVM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Finch, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right - vets and laypeople can vote with our dollars.  The ball is in the courts of the pet food companies to change their practices or explain why they are not.  There is alot of misinformation out there, so in researching pet foods, I try to go right to the company that produces them.  Most will have their nutritional information posted on their websites.  Science Diet does not currently use any ethoxyquin, BHA or BHT in the preservation of any of their foods.  I hope (but don&#039;t know for sure) that their preservation decisions have been made in response to listening to consumers, vets and conclusions from their own and others&#039; research. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right &#8211; vets and laypeople can vote with our dollars.  The ball is in the courts of the pet food companies to change their practices or explain why they are not.  There is alot of misinformation out there, so in researching pet foods, I try to go right to the company that produces them.  Most will have their nutritional information posted on their websites.  Science Diet does not currently use any ethoxyquin, BHA or BHT in the preservation of any of their foods.  I hope (but don&#039;t know for sure) that their preservation decisions have been made in response to listening to consumers, vets and conclusions from their own and others&#039; research.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Finch, DVM</title>
		<link>http://www.dancingdogblog.com/2010/01/pet-food-industry-vets-undue-influence/comment-page-1/#comment-2196</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Finch, DVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All!   
 
Mary, I think this article is very well written and brings up issues we all should be thinking through, for our pets and ourselves.  What our pets eat is at the center of their long term health.  As pet owners, we sometimes forget how very important that is.  (Some pet owners I mean, not you guys!)  I found myself thinking through my nutritional plans for my own eight pets and dragging out all our pet food to re-read the labels, and that is the highest compliment I can pay you!   
 
In the past several decades, the lifespans of pets have steadily increased and great strides and breakthroughs have been made in their nutritional care.  I do think we as consumers (and veterinarians) should keep pet food companies accountable to provide the very best product possible, but let us not also forget to THANK the ones involved in pet nutrition who are as passionate about our pets&#039; well-being as we ourselves are. 
 
Any pet food company worth its wages has veterinarians trained in nutrition intimately involved in every step of their organization, making scientifically and nutritionally sound decisions, with the ultimate goal of a long and healthy life for each pet.  I have personally never had CE paid for by pet food companies, or been financially compensated for supporting any of them, however neither have I ever felt unsupported by the pet food companies with whom I choose to work.  
  
The way pet food companies can support me, if they care (and I honestly believe that many of them do) is by staying on top of the game nutritionally, scientifically, and with longevity studies.  The ones who choose to provide prescription diets (or even maintenance diets) AND partner with me have to be the best of the best.  And they are. 
 
This is what I demand of every company that chooses to be in the business of coming along side me to restore and maintain the health of patients I love.  I realize I am one veterinarian, and there are thousands and thousands in the pet food industry, but I am heard, I am respected as a well-rounded scientist also obsessively focused on the nutritional well-being of pets (dogs, cats, and exotics), and I am very satisfied with the relationships that I have. 
 
Phew, never does one article make me rethink everything I hold so dear!  Nicely done :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All!   </p>
<p>Mary, I think this article is very well written and brings up issues we all should be thinking through, for our pets and ourselves.  What our pets eat is at the center of their long term health.  As pet owners, we sometimes forget how very important that is.  (Some pet owners I mean, not you guys!)  I found myself thinking through my nutritional plans for my own eight pets and dragging out all our pet food to re-read the labels, and that is the highest compliment I can pay you!   </p>
<p>In the past several decades, the lifespans of pets have steadily increased and great strides and breakthroughs have been made in their nutritional care.  I do think we as consumers (and veterinarians) should keep pet food companies accountable to provide the very best product possible, but let us not also forget to THANK the ones involved in pet nutrition who are as passionate about our pets&#039; well-being as we ourselves are. </p>
<p>Any pet food company worth its wages has veterinarians trained in nutrition intimately involved in every step of their organization, making scientifically and nutritionally sound decisions, with the ultimate goal of a long and healthy life for each pet.  I have personally never had CE paid for by pet food companies, or been financially compensated for supporting any of them, however neither have I ever felt unsupported by the pet food companies with whom I choose to work.  </p>
<p>The way pet food companies can support me, if they care (and I honestly believe that many of them do) is by staying on top of the game nutritionally, scientifically, and with longevity studies.  The ones who choose to provide prescription diets (or even maintenance diets) AND partner with me have to be the best of the best.  And they are. </p>
<p>This is what I demand of every company that chooses to be in the business of coming along side me to restore and maintain the health of patients I love.  I realize I am one veterinarian, and there are thousands and thousands in the pet food industry, but I am heard, I am respected as a well-rounded scientist also obsessively focused on the nutritional well-being of pets (dogs, cats, and exotics), and I am very satisfied with the relationships that I have. </p>
<p>Phew, never does one article make me rethink everything I hold so dear!  Nicely done <img src='http://www.dancingdogblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: norminontario</title>
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		<dc:creator>norminontario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in complete agreement with both of you.   
This is just like the vet I mentioned who doesn&#039;t conform and is being punished. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in complete agreement with both of you.<br />
This is just like the vet I mentioned who doesn&#039;t conform and is being punished.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadine M Rosin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadine M Rosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod- I&#039;ve been told that vets are required to take 1, 3-hour class on animal nutrition- and that that class covers ALL small animals. Shameful! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod- I&#39;ve been told that vets are required to take 1, 3-hour class on animal nutrition- and that that class covers ALL small animals. Shameful!</p>
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